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Binz, a company founded in 1936 by Michael Binz, was a German coachbuilder. They had many different conversions available as well as some of their own models. They even made scooters at one point in time.
But among the VW crowd, they are most known for their modification of making double cabs from single cabs, back before VW started producing DC's, called the "Binz double cab"
After building this site, my search
for BINZ specifics began. After contacting Dan kinsey, I realized we were both searching
for the same thing. I knew what he was doing, - I knew what he was looking for. I
knew why night after night, he sat at his computer. He was looking for answers.... I
knew because I was once looking for the same thing, and when I found it, I realized I
wasn't really looking for the answer.
It was the Question that drove me.........
What is the Binz.
The following is a story that Dan
kinsey wrote for my site to the best of his knowledge with the facts presented.
Revised on 8-19-01
The Binz Story
Dan kinsey
Binz 187
Volkswagen began production of the Crew Cab on November 3, 1958 according to
"Progressive Refinements", a manual published by Volkswagen. Prior to
that, all Volkswagen Crew Cabs were made by the coachbuilder Binz & Company. The
Binz Crew Cab, "Binz" for short, is one of the rarest production type II's in
existence.
The exact origin of the Binz crew cab is unknown. One article states that sometime
between 1954 and 1956 the owner of a nursery visited the Binz coachwerks in Germany.
He was in need of a vehicle that would be able to transport plants, materials, and
workers to and from jobsites. In addition to having the standard truck bed it also
needed a protected space for transporting sensitive plants. Thus, according to the
story, the crew cab was born. However, there is also an early Volkswagen Special Option
brochure dated 10/53, showing a Binz double cab. Perhaps the nursery owner story is
correct and the dates are wrong.
What is known, is the Binz crew cab was available through the Volkswagen dealer network
until February 1959 as Special Equipment Option 16 or SO 16. According to some reports,
you could also take your VW single cab to Binz and have them convert it for you. My
guess is that after the first conversion for the nursery owner, if that story is true, the
next several conversions were performed on customer vehicles until a contract with VW was
agreed upon. The practice of converting customer vehicles may have continued concurrently
with the VW contract but almost definitely continued after the contract expired.
This would account for the existence of post '59 Binz crew cabs rumored to exist.
The practice of converting customer trucks makes it difficult to verify the start date of
Binz production. Theoretically, you could have taken your '53 single cab to Binz in 1960
to have it converted so the existence of a '53 Binz does not necessarily mean Binz started
production in 1953.
The process of the conversion was very straightforward. VW sent single cabs in
primer with belly pans, like the deluxe and the double door busses, to the Binz factory.
The conversion was performed by taking the stock VW single cab, cutting the back
section of the cab off, and moving it rearward approximately 85 cm. This
created the rear seating/storage area. A roof section, third door, and wall panel
were then installed to enclose the new, larger, passenger cabin. As an option, the
owner could have Binz paint the truck for an additional fee of 260dm (in 1957). The paint
quality on these trucks was very poor. The engine compartment was left in primer and
the ashtray was left in when the cabin was painted. Lift up the ashtray on an
original paint Binz and you will see a ring of primer showing. The majority of the
Binz conversions were painted "Tauben Blau" or Blue-Grey, a color similar to
Dove Blue, but other colors were also used. There are vintage articles showing
bumpers and wheels painted the same color as the body and other articles showing both
white wheels and white detail on the bumpers. Based on these photos I believe the earlier
conversions had everything painted the body color while the later ones used white detail.
The trademark exterior signs of a Binz are the large rectangular rear side windows, large
rear door (suicide style on most Binz but with traditional forward opening hinges on later
models), and the remains of bed seam showing
on the drivers side (see photos), and the cut and welded side gates. Interior differences
include the bulkhead, Binz production tag, and the optional (250 dm in 9/57) Binz only
rear seat.now that is a rare seat!
So far all of the Binz I have found have a Binz Tag number that starts out
"3635" then is followed by another number, "187" in my case. So
my Binz Tag reads "3635+187". The "187" portion of the tag
refers to the production number. So mine would be the 187th Binz conversion built.
The meaning of the "3635" is unclear. I'm guessing it refers to the
general type of the conversion or possibly a specific type of conversion. The
difference is small but important. Since Binz did several types of conversions the
"3635" could simply designate conversion of Volkswagen single cab to double cab
- a general designation. But it could also mean conversion of Volkswagen single cab
to double cab for US Export. If so, there could be a whole other designation and
production numbering series for domestic (European) delivered Binz conversions. To
date all the Binz I have found have been in the United States so until I find a European
delivered Binz and get the serial number and Tag information from it I can't be 100%
certain of the meaning of the "3635" or make an estimate to the total
production.